silhouette lift in london, 3 weeks ago - £3,000. DR SEBAGH - London, GB

I have just had a proper look at the photos I posted, my marionette lines are worse, especially on one side. The doctor I spoke to suggested that If the threads are placed incorrectly they can cause the skin to roll over. (sorry he did put it much better than that). Looking at my pictures that could be an explanation? I am abroad at the moment but will definitely go for a face /neck lift consultation when I get back.
Please be kind with your comments... I feel terrible after looking at these photos lol

Still looking at my photos and really regretting not just going for the facelift. :(

Hi remotomer, I can totally empathise and I see what you mean.
I would not be happy with the result if I had jowling and the like after spending so much for the much-touted lift. I've been there too!
It is tough when you have made financial sacrifices for a procedure and received minimal results, and like you I wish I'd saved my money and had the surgical face lift and dispensed with trying the thread lift first.
*hugs*

Seeing as you have a second Doctors opinion which totally discredits Dr Sebagh's surgery technique, along with photographs that quite clearly support a very poor surgery procedure, I would contact Dr Sebagh and offer him the chance of putting right what you feel needs addressing, and informing him that if an exceptable outcome is not achieved you intend to take legal proceedings against him. However, I have found that with just the threat alone of placing a derogitary review on Social Media sites can often result in a beneficial outcome. I do know what you are currently experiencing because I had a Facelift in March 2013 at the Noa Clinic in Wroclaw, Poland and the results were terrible. I more or less knew within 2-3 days that the result was poor when I compared myself to the 2 other patients at the time who both had also undergone a Facelift procedure on the same day and you could see a remarkable difference straightaway. I too had lumpy uneven skin on both sides of my face and severe numness, after contacting the Clinic on 3 occasions to outline my concerns I was advised to "just give it time". One year later, there was no difference so I visited this Clinic again and had a consultation with the same surgeon Adam Kaljeski who informed me that " he will NOT perform revision surgery as he feels that my skin isnt appropiate for surgery as it is lacking elasticity ", something which he did not mention or point out prior to my initial surgery a year earlier. When I arrived back in the UK, I visited a second Plastic Surgeon and paid £90 for a consultation with him for an assessment of my initial face lift, he concluded that my skin texture and elasticity for a man of 52 years old was above average, he also concluded that the face lift was " very poor", and in he's opinion," only the skin had been lifted and not the muscle ". I was going to pursue a legal action but I was informed that " firstly I would have to allow the Clinic the option of putting things right", which has rather put me off as I would NEVER EVER CONSIDER FOR ONE MOMENT LETTING THAT CLINIC ANYWHERE NEAR ME AGAIN. Three years later the uneven skin and numbness on my face has gone, yet the jowls and baggy skin remain so in a way I suppose I am lucky. Best wishes with whatever you decide and remember, time is a great healer.

Aren't these threads biodegradable? If so then your issue is over within a few more months. If they are not, the knot at the dimples can be clipped by the inside of your mouth.

What a terrible experience, just shocking, so sorry...if be inclined to go to a lawyer.

Oh how I wish - wish - wish your review had been up before I went in for my procedure with Dr. Sebagh ... and how I wish - wish - wish I had written a review after my procedure to perhaps prevent someone else from going through the absolute trauma - both emotional & physical - that I went through!

Dr. Sebagh is actually world renowned for his Silhouette Soft Lift technique, and I flew all the way from Asia to see him. The procedure is quite popular in Bangkok, which is pretty close to me, but I didn't want to trust my face to just anyone. Little did I know ... And yes - I was kept waiting for hours too! Given that I was in Paris just for him, I initially didn't mind too much, as I was expecting fabulous results with minimum down time. Boy - was I in for a shock ... and yes - I actually think I was in literal shock!

Dr. Sebagh seems to be quite rough with his technique, and I suffered through the insertion of the threads. His bedside manner isn't exactly comforting! That being said, his placement was absolutely perfect. Another plus point to him is that he dissuaded me from any other treatments I was considering, which is something I have very seldom heard US doctors do (regrets if I may have offended any ethical American PS's; it is not my intention to do so to those that truly have the best interests of their patients at heart, but my experience has been quite different).

It was the aftermath that had me reeling. He knew I was planning to fly to Madrid within four (4) days of the procedure, and I even asked if I should stay back. He said there was absolutely no indication I should, so I made my onward travel plans. What happened the afternoon I landed in Madrid left me quite traumatized. My cheek areas swelled up to such an extent that I - NO exaggeration - looked like one of those Troll Dolls! It is a funny visual, but it was not funny at ALL during the time. I was alone & scared. I thought I may have developed cellulitis, such was the degree of the swelling. I even had the Hilton call a doctor that evening, who examined me & prescribed me strong steroids & antibiotics.

I tried ringing Dr. Sebagh in Paris, but the lady who answered the phone spoke no English (and I speak French badly!), so I finally broke down & revealed to a French-speaking girlfriend what I had undergone. I was embarrassed, but I was also desperate. She most compassionately called Paris (from Switzerland, mind you!) just to obtain Dr. Sebagh's mobile number. She also - bless her - took it upon herself to call Dr. Sebagh & speak to him about my condition. As sweet as she is, she called me back noticeably annoyed at how dismissive & unhelpful the good doctor was. I was not impressed.

I thought I had damaged my face for good & was bereft ... only making things much worse with that stress as well. I couldn't recognize myself, and really - I cannot express just how frightened I was.

In two weeks, the swelling FINALLY went down, and just as I was starting to look a little more like myself ... the threads broke!! Off back to Paris I went (not the greatest idea, in hindsight), and I met with Dr. Sebagh. He initially seemed irritated with me, until I slowed him down, looked him dead in the eye, and explained that given I had done a lot of research prior to the procedure (hence me flying out to Paris to see 'the best'), and I had not come across any review or article that stated the recovery time could be this long & that traumatic. In light of the fact that I was ALONE, it was only natural that I would be that frightened with my face having reacted so fiercely from the procedure!

I can only presume my authenticity in that moment penetrated past his ego (and he has a very large one!); he became a little more empathetic. He did replace the threads, and - again to his credit - did not charge me anything for it. We're on a website where thousands of the RS community are upset that doctors they have visited have not done right by them, and then want to charge them AGAIN for THEIR mistake/poor performance, so I appreciate that Dr. Sebagh did not do the same.

While I was fortunate enough to have the threads excellently placed, the procedure & aftermath left me very traumatized, and left my body in shock. I am now so acutely sensitive to the bullsh!t served on how procedures are touted like they are a walk in the park & that there is "no downtime". I will NEVER believe those lies again, and I understand that one not only has to be physically ready for surgery - no matter how small - but MENTALLY ready as well for the recovery period. Many of you will know exactly what I mean by this.

All in all, for the time it took me to recover, I could have recovered from a full-on facelift! The threads have bought me some time, but I have no intention of flying half way around the world to see Dr. Sebagh again. Dare I say that instead, I visited my derm in Bangkok, who has treated me for the last 10 years & is very well known there. She inserted a few more Silhouette Soft Lift threads; I felt nothing ... Saw an improvement ... paid LESS THAN HALF of what I paid Dr. Sebagh, and - wait for it - had NO SWELLING WHATSOEVER! Now, it could have been the extra-strength Bromelian that I was taking, but the next day I went to see her for a check-up (I was flying out that very day), and jokingly asked her if she really did anything at all! Even after I got off the flight - no issues. Guess where I'm going for my next thread lift?!

I am so very sorry about your 'dimples', my dear ... after what I experienced, especially at the hands of the same doctor, I know only too well your upset. I believe they will resolve in time, and although I know it's hard to be patient, do your best to be. You remain in my thoughts & prayers. xx

So sorry and thanks for the warning! I hope you get it sorted out. I was seriously thinking about doing this but for 3k I might save up for a face lift when I'm 50!

I would demand my money back and make a fuss m See an attorney if necessary

I complained of similar after my endotine lift - and really couldn't understand why my jawline actually looked WORSE after the surgery . A doctor finally explained to me that swelling drains downward from the midface and and can make the jawline look worse while you are still healing . It can take months to heal so you will have to wait for the final result ! In the meantime if you massage the jawline several times a day you can help that fluid to dissipate more quickly . Once I finally healed at 3 months my jawline went back to normal, maybe slightly better, and my mid face is lifted .

I had this procedure done 1.5 years ago and also was shocked at the downtime. I was prepared for 4 days and 6 weeks later, I still had dimples and massive swelling. At the 6 week mark, I had my doctor go back in and cut the knots from my temples. Threads are still in my face but there is nothing anchoring them to my fascia. Now, 1.5 years later, my face is *almost* back to normal. I cried for months thinking I had ruined my face- such a nightmare! Worst procedure ever. Thank god the damage wasn't permanent.

he offered you fillers? unbelievable. what a charlatan.

Any news regarding your dimples? Are they gone? I had the procedure almost two months ago and still have 2 dimples above each of my eyebrows. If I could turn back time and never had this done... I massage them everyday as the doctor recommended, but have not seen substancial (if any) improvement. What about you?

I went to Dr Sebagh a few years ago for botox, and found him to be very aggressive, both in his manner and in his treatment, i had to stop him mid treatment as i felt he was giving me too much, he was not happy at all and quite rude, he did not care how i felt, just wanted me out and the next patient in. I would never recommend him.